The modern traditional concept of the trinity is commonly accepted on the premise of three co-eternal separate yet interdependent persons. I cannot accept this for two principle reasons.

1. If Jesus is as old (or as eternally co-existent with) as the Father, then this contradicts the entire idea of Father and son, a concept upon which the whole NT is founded upon, and the character of which brings glory to both for the sacrifice of Calvary…if it were not so the whole episode of Genesis 22:1-14 is rendered meaningless, among numerous others.

2. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. The spirit of man is the mind of man is it not? For when it is spoken of that we have in us the Holy Spirit, do we not from that time forth have the mind of Christ? When we are filled with the Holy Spirit, does not the scripture say that it is “Christ in us, the hope of glory’? Not another person, but Christ Himself abides in us. The Holy Spirit is not a third person, another mind apart from Christ and the Father. The Holy Spirit is the shared mind of the Father and Son.


Romans 8:1 ¶  There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4  That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 ¶  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11  But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12  Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13  For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15  For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:


A shared Spirit. One in mind and heart.  The Father and the Son are individual persons each having their own mind, but being one, is the mind of God. The spirit of God. Given to us and affirms we are God’s children. It therefore is the Spirit of the Father passed on to the Son, affirming the Son as a truly begotten Son of the Father, and likewise passed on to us, affirming us as adopted children of God.


Oh, I could add a third, more ummm, ‘philosophical’ reason for rejecting the trinity, and that would be the fact that the Roman apostasy holds the trinity as being the foundation doctrine for all her other doctrines and dogmas. For me to accept a foundational doctrine of the Antichrist as one of my own, goes against the grain. Sorry.


Due to the trinity teaching, it is believed by the majority of churches that Jesus Christ is not the literal begotten Son of God, but instead an equal, co-eternal God alongside the Father. The trinity teaching says that Jesus had no beginning and the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three co-equal, co-eternal beings that are playing a ‘family role’. In other words, they are just play acting these roles of Father and Son. Because you are either a literal Father and Son, or you are just playing the roles.Jesus as the ‘Son of God’ is only a ‘SYMBOLIC’ application and He is not the literal Son of the Father. Yet we read throughout the scripture….


John 3:16 …’For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.’

Romans 8:3 …’God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh.’

John 16:27-28 …’For the Father himself loveth you, because you have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.’

John 17:7-8 …’Now they have known that all things whatsoever you have given me are of you. For I have given unto them the words which you gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from you, and they have believed that you did send me.’

Proverbs 8:23-25 …’I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth.’

Proverbs 30:4 …’Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?’

John 20:17 …’Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.’

Remember, God is our ‘Father’ by adoption. God is Christ’s Father by birth!

I hope and pray that you can see the clear truth here. The Bible is very clear that Jesus came forth from the Father in eternity past, when there was nothing yet made. Jesus came forth from the Father as a literal Son. But now the churches, including my own Seventh-day Adventist Church have turned away from this vital truth and gone into error. Is it important to know the truth concerning this? Is it important to discern the difference between a literal Son and a metaphorical son?


1 John 2:22 …’Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.’


Yes, this issue is very important, because as the Bible clearly says in John 3:16, we are saved by the only begotten Son of God. And if you dig into the original Greek and Hebrew, you will see that Jesus was literally ‘born’ of God as a literal Son. So if you don’t believe Jesus to be the Son of God, then how can you be saved by Him? This is very serious friends. And as 1 John 2:22 confirms, if you deny the Father and Son relationship, then you are an ‘antichrist’.

The teaching of the literal Son, begotten of the literal Father, is what the early church based their whole teaching on…this was the foundation that Jesus said He would build His church upon as He declared it to Peter after Peter’s true confession, “Thou are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.” That pillar of our faith was dismantled in the council of Nicea, and that, along with other  pillars of our faith such as Sabbath observance are being rejected in the church today and the trinity teaching from Babylon, and Sunday ‘sacredness’, has been embraced by virtually all the churches. This is something that will unite the churches in the last days. Please don’t be deceived any longer. But stand on the firm foundation – Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and God gave His only Son for your salvation. Believe on the Son of God and you will be saved.

1 John 5:5 …’Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?’


2 thoughts on “Trinity.

  1. The Trinity is the Foundation. Jesus claims over and over equality with the Father, saying that they are one, and If you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father. Jesus was not a Son of God, He was God. If Jesus was not God, He was a liar and blasphemer, and truly deserved the death He died. But Jesus Christ has always existed as the Second person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit as well is just as much God as the Father and the Son are. Jesus Christ as the second person of the Trinity has existed since the beginning, never being created or born in that sense. However, this same person of the Trinity chose to take upon Himself human flesh, and be born into our world to redeem us. Only the God-man could pay for the sins of his people. He had to be fully human to suffer and die, and had to be fully God for God’s Justice to be satisfied, and for his death to have infinite merit. The Spirit must be fully God in order to effectually apply the work of Christ in a persons life. Without the Son and the Spirit being God, Chist’s death meant nothing.

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